Comments on: Overstepping boundaries: law, science, and atheism http://americanclarity.com/2009/12/21/overstepping-boundaries-law-science-and-atheism/ The laws of nature and of nature's God for the refined conservative Sat, 19 May 2012 11:34:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Nicole http://americanclarity.com/2009/12/21/overstepping-boundaries-law-science-and-atheism/#comment-1510 Nicole Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:49:02 +0000 http://americanclarity.com/2009/12/21/overstepping-boundaries-law-science-and-atheism/#comment-1510 Ben- Closed minded? Are you serious, dude? If anyone here is in-tolerant of another I would have to say it is you. Tolerance is a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward the opinions and practices that differ from one's own. It seems to me that the writer has clearly and logically looked at the matter at hand and decided from his research to believe a certain way, the Judeo/Christian way. You on the other hand have been closed minded to not give him a fair and permissive attitude about your belief differences. One key thing you have to understand about Judeo/Christian beliefs is that the bible is the infallible word of God, sent from Him to us through His prophets. Why is it prideful to take a stand on ones beliefs? And why is it arrogant to have a particular belief in Christianity but not some other religion for instance? Why wouldn't you stand up for what you believe if one really truly believed? One would have to be insane to have deeply rooted beliefs and then not put up a fight or refute other beliefs. You said that the writer was closed off to science? Did you even go to the links that were provided? There is science in ALL the research. Believe it or not, theology and science DO work together, beautifully, I might add! Also, where do you get that Horus/Rah was born of a virgin. I have heard about this story before, the only problem is that you forget to mention that the story keeps changing. Rah evolved into so many different "gods". The so called similarities between the two are very minimal and I have still yet to find any legitimate sites with credible information on the matter. All I've been able to find is stuff from people like you. I mean that last statement with no disrespect. I was once in your shoes a few years ago. It is natural to be skeptical about the world and beliefs in it. I would encourage everyone to learn as much as they can about science and theology. But ultimately, you have to decide what you think this life is for. God has done an amazing work in me and helped me see that it is much more than mere science or others things to distract us here on earth. It is about a LOT more than that! God bless you. Merry Christmas! Also, Very good article, American Clarity! Ben- Closed minded? Are you serious, dude? If anyone here is in-tolerant of another I would have to say it is you. Tolerance is a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward the opinions and practices that differ from one’s own. It seems to me that the writer has clearly and logically looked at the matter at hand and decided from his research to believe a certain way, the Judeo/Christian way. You on the other hand have been closed minded to not give him a fair and permissive attitude about your belief differences.

One key thing you have to understand about Judeo/Christian beliefs is that the bible is the infallible word of God, sent from Him to us through His prophets.

Why is it prideful to take a stand on ones beliefs? And why is it arrogant to have a particular belief in Christianity but not some other religion for instance? Why wouldn’t you stand up for what you believe if one really truly believed? One would have to be insane to have deeply rooted beliefs and then not put up a fight or refute other beliefs. You said that the writer was closed off to science? Did you even go to the links that were provided? There is science in ALL the research. Believe it or not, theology and science DO work together, beautifully, I might add!

Also, where do you get that Horus/Rah was born of a virgin. I have heard about this story before, the only problem is that you forget to mention that the story keeps changing. Rah evolved into so many different “gods”. The so called similarities between the two are very minimal and I have still yet to find any legitimate sites with credible information on the matter. All I’ve been able to find is stuff from people like you.

I mean that last statement with no disrespect. I was once in your shoes a few years ago. It is natural to be skeptical about the world and beliefs in it. I would encourage everyone to learn as much as they can about science and theology. But ultimately, you have to decide what you think this life is for. God has done an amazing work in me and helped me see that it is much more than mere science or others things to distract us here on earth. It is about a LOT more than that! God bless you. Merry Christmas!

Also, Very good article, American Clarity!

]]> By: Ben Bowen http://americanclarity.com/2009/12/21/overstepping-boundaries-law-science-and-atheism/#comment-1502 Ben Bowen Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:44:28 +0000 http://americanclarity.com/2009/12/21/overstepping-boundaries-law-science-and-atheism/#comment-1502 Essentially, using the bible is your weakest part of your argument. The bible was written by men. Men are fallible, and to quote them as some sort of undeniable truth is ignorant. The bible borrows from several different religions. Mainly, the story of Rah, the sun god of Egypt. Rah was born to a virgin mother, had 12 disciples, was killed on the cross, resurrected after three days, was referred to as the lamb of God, the light, the truth. Sound familiar? This facet of Egyptian religion was based over 1,200 years before Christianity. Your argument that God must be true because science hasn't been able to disprove his existence is extremely fallible. I can use the same argument for my belief in the flying spaghetti monster. Science cannot disprove that a flying spaghetti monster began Earth as we know it, just as it cannot disprove that God did. Using this argument, God is just as likely as a flying spaghetti monster, or any half cocked random belief. To remain so closed off to not only science but every other religion in the world is extremely close minded and arrogant. You can never learn anything by questioning other people's beliefs, you can only learn by questioning your own. It is so much easier to disprove an argument than to prove it, your arguments are purely based on faith. The bible is a book of faith written by man. There is no way to disprove a belief, so you hide behind your faith and condemn all other rational thought. You seem to possess a fair amount of arrogance and pride to argue that your beliefs are more right than others: beliefs of science or of other religions. Essentially, using the bible is your weakest part of your argument. The bible was written by men. Men are fallible, and to quote them as some sort of undeniable truth is ignorant. The bible borrows from several different religions. Mainly, the story of Rah, the sun god of Egypt. Rah was born to a virgin mother, had 12 disciples, was killed on the cross, resurrected after three days, was referred to as the lamb of God, the light, the truth. Sound familiar? This facet of Egyptian religion was based over 1,200 years before Christianity. Your argument that God must be true because science hasn’t been able to disprove his existence is extremely fallible. I can use the same argument for my belief in the flying spaghetti monster. Science cannot disprove that a flying spaghetti monster began Earth as we know it, just as it cannot disprove that God did. Using this argument, God is just as likely as a flying spaghetti monster, or any half cocked random belief.
To remain so closed off to not only science but every other religion in the world is extremely close minded and arrogant. You can never learn anything by questioning other people’s beliefs, you can only learn by questioning your own. It is so much easier to disprove an argument than to prove it, your arguments are purely based on faith. The bible is a book of faith written by man. There is no way to disprove a belief, so you hide behind your faith and condemn all other rational thought. You seem to possess a fair amount of arrogance and pride to argue that your beliefs are more right than others: beliefs of science or of other religions.

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